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Lack of bed/couch side manners

by sirgaw Online Now Aug 7, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Yesterday I had to go to a skin specialist (God) to have a few skin cancers removed from my back. I was ushered into the torture room and with almost no ceremony of "How are you," etc from God was told to remove my shirt and lie on the couch facing the window. I tried to make small talk to ease some of the tension, but God just would not respond. During the procedure I could smell burning flesh - my flesh - and asked if there was a BBQ in process. God ignored the jibe and even his assistant ignored the mere mortal on the cutting table/couch. The procedure concluded and I was not even offered any help getting off the couch after what they had done to me. God again did not answer my, "Thanks God err Doc," remark and to cap it all off I was even told to take my bits they had removed and floating in some sort of liquid in little plastic bottles to the receptionist. I could see them bobbing up and down - yuck!!! Why are doctors and particularly specialists like that?

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    Re: Lack of bed/couch side manners

    by craic Online Now Aug 7, 2012 at 9:10 PM

    because a lot of docs rate pretty high on the autism/aspergers scale

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    by sirgaw Online Now Aug 7, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    Interesting point Jen.

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    by kiwi Online Now Aug 7, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    haha @ Jen :-) I think it's because they make too many appointment bookings in their day. If they only saw 2 or 3 patients per day, they may take the time. But good thing is, they are not all like this :-)

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    by unravelau Online Now Aug 7, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    No excuses for rudeness from my perspective. Carole.

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    by JessieLang Online Now Aug 7, 2012 at 10:29 PM

    I've experienced both ends of that spectrum. The surgeon who fixed my rotator cuff has the personality of a large rock. He does excellent work, tho, and I'd pick him again over someone chatty. He is very shy, and has trouble communicating. (He mumbles, and his assistant explains things.) I think he went into surgery because his patients are asleep and he doesn't have to talk to them! On the other hand, I see one specialist who acts like it is a social call. He always asks about my latest trip and makes a few jokes. Needless to say, he gets behind schedule fairly often.

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    by Suet Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 12:39 AM

    Hmmmm sounds like your specialist is a very busy man... too busy to chat. I'd rather have a mute surgeon, with hands as steady as a rock than one who is life and soul of the party in the operating theatre. If I want a riot, I usually go to a VT meet. Most doctors I have met socially always have the funniest stories about what pickles patients manage to get themselves into while hoovering the stairs. Hoovers have a lot to answer for when it comes to personal injury. Ah but dentists, now there is a whole different ball game. Balls, of course have little part to play in the visit to the dentist, but you have to have them to make an appointment to be tortured. Dentists always understand exactly what you say while they are trying to fit their entire medical instrument collection into your mouth at the same time. I think it's telepathy, personally.

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    by sirgaw Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 1:39 AM

    >Balls, of course have little part to play in the visit to the dentist, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!! Not sure if it was you or not that went to a dentist and after all those things were shoved in your mouth the dentist felt a firm grip on his b*lls. He took all those things out of your mouth and then asked, "Sue, what do you think you are doing." You croaked an answer that most would find difficult to understand from the stuff he had injected, "We're not going to hurt each other, are we!"

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    by tayloretc Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 3:34 AM

    I would never have clicked on this discussion if I'd known there'd be talk of dentists. Just a few weeks ago a tiny filling fell out right after I'd brushed my teeth. I went immediately the next morning, and said please just put a new one in, it's tiny, it's clean, no issues. Without saying anything he went for the drill anyway, I fell out of the chair, and he just said "goodbye, good luck," and walked away. I have to go curl up in a corner and have a cry now.

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    by Rixie Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 7:21 AM

    A young woman I know saw a cardiologist who asked her why she didn't have children yet.

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    by SONG Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 8:08 AM

    David, you practically had me in tears with your story. Too funny. My motto is that I don't like any doctor who says, "Open wide". I'll let you think about that one. :-) Personally, I would not like to be a doctor, even though they "make a mint". All they see daily is pain and suffering and people who are scared. In fact, I have heard that dentists have a very high suicide rate because of that.

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    by sirgaw Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 8:16 AM

    Kathy (Song) perhaps you should be looking at a tip I've just added in Kakadu National Park here in Australia and have a peep at the photos on Norlangie Region-Rock Art and spectacular scenery after your >>"Open wide". I'll let you think about that one. :-) comment - LOL

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    by SONG Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 8:24 AM

    OMG.....NOT!!!!!!!!!

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    by MacedonianUK Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Try to have word out of Herr Doctor Profesor, Professor XXXXX here in Germany. At the University Hospital in Aachen they never taught bedside manners, my litte girl was petrified few months back... And one thing what annoys me imensly the clerical staff at the privat practices think they are God given gift and arrogant to boot.!!

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    i had the other problem with my obstetrician for my first child - he had so much bedside manner - what a charmer! he was a macquarie street specialist ( the australian equivalent of harley street) so i trusted him well it was a public holiday the day i went into labour and the staff at the hospital kept ringing him up but he was at a aprty and just kept saying - let her labour 20 hours later of pure agony he rolled in - and i saw the panic in his eyes high forceps delivery - they don't do that any more and then he had the check to lean and whisper to me that perhaps it was the fault of my bone structure!!! the staff kept trying to tell him my child was posterior - but he panicked so i don't want bedside manner one bit - i want cold competence

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 9:29 AM

    that should be cheek! nothing wrong with my bone structure - my second child who was lying the right way round - anterior - was easy peasy

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    Re: Lack of bed/couch side manners

    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    btw fugu obstetrician delivers children - a gynacologist gives you pap smears etc! most of them are both gyn/ob

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    hmm - we don't use gynacologist (i can't even spell it) like that in australia - or nz a gynie just looks after unpregnant women's bits a midwife (male or female in spite of being a wife) can look after pregnant women and deliv er babies

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    i am not sure what a nuevola is - perhaps it is a midwife

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    golly a kind of combination midwife/baby health nurse a bit untranslatable

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    starts school at 7!!!! mercy that is late in life

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    well that is odd so the person who monitors you while you are pregnant doesn't deliver you

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    there are so many different practises around the world i was in new zealand during the latter stages of my daughter's pregnancy and people would ask me how she was doing and i would reply - she has had her ultrasound - and they would say - oh dear is everything all right? in new zealand you have an ultrasound if there seems to be a problem in australia you have three routinely at certain stages

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    well yeah at the hospital they have to take care of the delivery if they don't you deliver anyway lol - no way to stop that

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    but do you know the person who delivers you? my daughter was very upset because her obstetrician died before he could deliver her he was a cave diver and died in a notorious dangerous cavern with the rope wrapped around his neck she was very upset about all the symbolism - and yeah, her baby had the cord around his neck and it all got very fraught and as she was being rushed to theatre for a caesarian she delivered in the corridor oh mercy, why would anyone have a baby!

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    temporary but necessary

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    by craic Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    i do find that very odd that you don't know who will deliver you stranger in the room! mares head off to be alone when they deliver and i know i very much wanted to be alone -

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    by canuck68 Online Now Aug 8, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Unfortunately I have seen too many specialists for my liking lately. I consider myself very fortunate that they have been both competent and personable. If I had to choose though I would take competent for sure.

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    by Suet Online Now Aug 9, 2012 at 2:44 AM

    Jen, now you now one of the reasons why I never wanted children. The World and his wife seem to want to scan you poke and prod you and fiddle about with your bits, you are forever being told what to do by service professionals or other mothers or heaven forbid, In Laws. After seeing those poor women on the ward when I was a nurse, fighting over those rubber rings to sit on (they had had episiostomies where the midwife/surgeon cuts you in the most sensitive of places to let the baby out) NO THANK YOU..... the screams the crying the pain.... forget it.

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    Re: Lack of bed/couch side manners

    by craic Online Now Aug 9, 2012 at 8:01 AM

    i am too curious to have gone on without finding out what having a child is like and i am pleased because it was just the best thing ever! it was so great i went on to have another!

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    by nomad7890 Online Now Aug 9, 2012 at 9:49 AM

    Absolutely no excuse, no matter how busy. Fortunately, not all doctors are this way, but some feel that they are above everyone else - while I am the least bit impressed as my Dad was an oral surgeon with better manners. I've had doctors I've only visited once - and did not return, just went to someone else. Yes, I had one that would ask me something and talk to a tape recorder - not a single exchange with me. While any extreme is not good (you don't want the guy to take the tip of your nose because he laughed at something you said) - at least a "hi, how are you today" ... and even "don't call us - just bleed" if you have a problem would have been better.

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