Who are the British?
The English are British and lots of people think the British are English but that annoys the Scottish and Welsh because although some think they're British and some think they aren't and some think they are but don't want to be, they all agree that they definitely are not English. The Irish mostly think they are Irish, apart from the ones who are Northern Irish. Some say that makes them British and Irish. But others disagree and say they should just be Irish and then some say they aren't British either but part of the United Kingdom. People from England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland can all play cricket for England because they're British as can those from Ireland even though they aren't British. So can South Africans. The English play football for England unless they aren't that good when they might try to play for Ireland. Those from the Isle of Wight are English, from Anglesey are Welsh and the Orkneys are Scottish, but although that means they aren't from the island of Great Britain they're still British. The Channel Islanders depend on the crown which is what the Queen wears but they aren't in the UK and those from the Isle of Man are the same, apart from their cats.
Hi Johm, i assume the foto with the python is from Bangkok and see that you have travelled a lot. Interesting question but am i Scottish or English. My blood is 100% Scottish bit i happened to be born in Newcastle, England and only lived North of the border for 5 years. As a teenager i was brought up in Kent and my memories are of England winning the world cup, Spurs football team with great players as Jimmy Greaves, Dave Mackay, Danny Blanchflower and winning the ECWC in '63. Then we had the great Kent cricket team with such great players as Colin Cowdrey, Alan Knott, Derek Underwood, Brian Luckhurst, and the Scotsman Mike Denness who also played for England. So as a young guy i was raised at this time, went to school in Sandwich and Canterbury so i always supported England, much to the disappointment of Dad, but perhaps you can tell me if i am English or Scottish. For me it doesn't matter where we come from, we are all of this world.
I really can't tell you if you are Scottish or English David. Blood or birthplace? Impossible question to answer. It just depends on what you feel yourself to be I suppose. You don't just think of yourself as British then!
The photo with the python was actually taken on Bali. I do love Thailand though. I might try to get back there next year.
By the way I took the identity thing above from the BBC website. Just in case anyone thinks I am claiming it as my own.
Dear Magnet, if you had made that up, I would suggest that you go and have a lie down!
It doesn't matter where you were born or brought up, it's whether you are a decent honest human being or not that counts.
Well said Suet
I feel like lying down just after reading it!
And to make things more complicated i was born in Newcastle, Northumberland but last time i bothered to check it is Newcastle , Tyne and Weir. Also lived in Rutland for a while, then it became part of Leicestershire and did not exist for several years until it became Rutland again. STRANGE WORLD, ISN'T IT!
Thank you David. I've lived in different countries and people are 99% good people except the pickpockets and scammers in Madrid, Barcelona, Paris and Nairobi.
I read this week that decendents of the Bounty mutiny were less cross-eyed than the rest of the population. Is that a British influence?
Why? Is everyone else on Pitcairn cross eyed? I never heard of such a thing among any ethnic group!
Here's the story:
The whole mutiny thing was a bit myopic if you ask me.
Near-sighted, PJ, not cross-eyed. I'm myopic, but both eyes face front...most of the time. :)
John, we have a friend in Northern Ireland who spends a lot of time explaining that he's British, not Irish. In the US it just confuses people, because he sounds Irish.
However he feels is fine with me Laverne. I was up there a couple of weeks ago and I was amazed when a man from Sandy Row (a famous unionist/loyalist area) told me "we are all Irish"
Saw that this morning, and enjoyed its tongue-in-cheek-ness. It's from very clever article about the quirks of the Brits, supposedly for those who are visiting for the Olympics (but really for our own amusement, I think):
Thanks John for the first laugh of my day!!!
Dazed and Confused,
I can see the confusion you have there. We get it here also. My favorite line from any movie is from Stripes. "We are the mutts of the world."
Over here, most of us don't care after a few generations. We start out as Italian-Americans or Irish-Americans, and end up Americans.
In my case, there would be too many hypens if I tried to specify. I am a Heinz 57 American (the Heinz company brags that it has 57 flavors of soup.) English, Irish, Welsh, a good chunk of Portuguese. My kids, via their father, add in Scottish and German.
Im from earth..Im pretty sure..Im not a vampire since I can not stay up all night and I am not a mass murderer (Florida 999 can attest to that)...
Good is good! I think Belgium does have some nationality/identity questions though.
They can if they like..Im certainly not one of them!...LOL...
No, it's just a nation with three official languages.
Yep and a distinct lack of cohesive govornment and a penchant for making up daft rules and regulations
What's so confusing about identity? I have no problems and I grew up half German and half Italian in Balkan and Swedish neighborhoods of a Polish city where we speak English, learn Spanish and are ruled by the Irish. What's so confusing about that?
Funniest thread I've read in ages.
Seems pretty easy to me. I'm Scottish, British & European.
I can see past those from outwith the UK who get confused about the way it is made up, as I'd hope a German would forgive me my lack of knowledge about the relationship between the states and the state.
I see no reason to do anything other than berate any fellow Brits who don't know where they're at in the UK.
My aunty was Bodicea..... she taught me a thing or two about PMS.....
no problem , I have four nationalities with passports, and have no problem at all. I would love to play cards with my passports to find the quickest lane at airports nowdays ::)
and some require visas to visit certain countries and others dont so there you go...
Being doing it for 40 years so life is beautiful and so the four of them. Cheers
Concurrent levels of overlapping ethnic identity is always a cool thing. Its more pronounced in new world countries than old.
I guess it depends how "nationalist" the person is.
My husband always says
Scottish by birth,
British by law,
Highlander by the grace of God ;-)
Yes, he is still waiting and hoping for the day to have a SCOTTISH and not a British passport.