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Is Rio Really Less Safe than Detroit, Manila, Bangkok, Santo Domingo, Madrid, Phnom Penh?
Posted: Sun February 26, 2006 06:11 AM UTC
I have read all through the forums here in preparation for a visit to Brazil (Sao Paulo, Rio, Salvador, Manaus, Brazilia) and I am beginning to wonder just how safe Rio really is. I have travelled in many large cities both for pleasure and for business. I spend a good deal of time every year on the road, maybe 30% or more. I have seen the gypsies at work in Europe, visited burned out shells of neighborhoods in Detroit, the thugs on the beaches of the Domincan Republic, the desparation of poverty in The Philippines, the chaos of Patpong at night in Bangkok to mention a few experiences that may put people on edge.

I am always aware of my surrounding. I have the advantage, at 51, of having a very good sense of danger and avoid conflict from a distance when I see it. I never dress flashy, try to fit into the local scene, even as an American, and generally avoid well know plces of trouble at nighttime.

So, what gives about Rio? It seems like a beautiful city, full of energy and zest. Are the comments here merely to reinforce what most seasoned travelers know by heart, or is Rio really a dangerous place? I have heards tales of the glue & paint-huffing kids, crazed to blazenly steal from anyone, the hardened beach thugs, the pickpockets, etc. Is the place out of control? Do the police not have a presence or command of the situation? Should I spend more time in Salvador or Sao Paulo or smaller places still to get a better sense of Brazil that is not fear-ridden? Or is crime the unfortunate experience that most visitors return home with?
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RE: Is Rio Really Less Safe than Detroit, Manila, Bangkok, Santo Domingo, Madrid, Phnom Penh?
Posted: Sun February 26, 2006 06:40 AM UTC
Hi, I've been to most of the cities that you mentioned and I did not have any safety issues at all. I have just arrived from Port Moresby, PNG which has been mentioned as one of the most dangerous places to visit amongst Bogota and Johannesburg, but never had problems. Maybe I'm just lucky. Sometimes the security warnings really border on paranoia. They can be also insulting to locals because such warnings insinuate that the citizens are all thugs and incapable of civilised behaviour.

Of course, you must use commonsense. Having an expensive video camera dangling around your neck while touring a favela is inviting for trouble. Or getting drunk on your own in a seedy bar at Copacabana and you may wake up without a kidney (a Rio urban myth)!! In all big cities, there are con artists and scammers. Just be worldly and street wise. Rio is one of my favourite cities to visit. I walked day and night around the city without any incident, and I was there for a month. Although I was warned not to walk on the beach (the sandy area) at night, as there was a spate of robberies when I was there. Stick to the promenade. Just ask the locals, use commonsense, be streetwise and you'll be fine.

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RE: RE: Is Rio Really Less Safe than Detroit, Manila, Bangkok, Santo Domingo, Madrid, Phnom Penh?
Posted: Sun February 26, 2006 06:54 AM UTC
brazilian big cities are quite comparable with US big cities when it comes to the safety issue.
you just don't enter certain neighbourhoods.
that is hard for some europeans who are used to from back home that they can wander in to any slum 24 hours a day without feeling in danger.
i generally found that americans got in to very little trouble in brazil because they are used to having parts of town that are no go.
stay in the nice parts of towns in brazil and you will have little trouble.

90% of the tourists who get in to trouble in brazil do so because they are getting drunk in prostitute areas, so if you don't do either you are not likely to face any trouble.

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