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buyiing property in or near Rio de Janeiro
Posted: Mon October 11, 2004 02:23 PM UTC
Hi,

Not only is VT an excellent site to gather information from knowledgeable residents in various locals around the world who offer wonderul insights to their home countries and cities it is also second to none in gathering accurate information from good people who have nothing to lose or gain.

To that end, I have two, quick questions:

1. I have been exploring the web at Viviun and Rio Wild. The cost of housing in and around Rio de Janeiro appears to be very attractive. But are the prices I am seeing (hope I'm using this correctly) what Caiocas would pay, or are they inflated? And...

2. Is there any room to negotiate? If so.. how much is the norm? (Okay, that was three questions.)

Well, while we're at it, one more. I understand location, location, location, but, in terms of purchasing a house in Rio, what else should I be aware of?

Any help is truly appreciated.

Thank you.
dstanley 6 replies

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Rio de Janeiro
Re: buyiing property in or near Rio de Janeiro
Posted: Fri October 15, 2004 11:57 AM UTC
If you can understand Portuguese I suggest you consult the classified property ada in "O Globo", at http://classificados.oglobo.com.br/retranca.asp

For a decent 2-3 bedroom flat in a good area (Ipanema/ Posto 6), you're probably looking at a minimum of around US$200K. Houses in such areas are rare.

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Re: Re: buyiing property in or near Rio de Janeiro
Posted: Fri October 15, 2004 12:36 PM UTC
Hi Robin,

Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, I do not speak the language. That, of course, will change once I make the move. Nevertheless, I am keeping your information. I am making friends there who, lucky for me, speak both and can translate.

That said, I'm kind of leaning toward the area around Marcia about an hour north of Rio. It's not as touristy, but I understand it's really a nice place and housing there is far less expensive.

Again, my sincere appreciation for taking the time to share your thoughts.

Sincerely,
David

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dstanley [Reply]
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Re: buyiing property in or near Rio de Janeiro
Posted: Tue October 19, 2004 09:37 PM UTC
David,
Are you referring to Marica (Marcia-sp.?) If so, are you aware that the ocean waves and under-current conditions are not especially kind to bathers? I too have seen some of the property listings in that region and they look enticing. It all depends upon what you're looking for. Some of the houses there look really nice. I am not certain about the security situation in that area, i.e. gated community with private guards, etc. There are lots of internet real estate options, search google for "imoveis rio". Robin's suggestion about Globo is also a good idea. Good luck house hunting and caveat emptor.
Best regards,
Ray

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Re: Re: buyiing property in or near Rio de Janeiro
Posted: Tue October 26, 2004 05:28 PM UTC
Hi there

I live here in Rio and am investing in a tourist property development. Real estate (RE) tricky business here, and location location is right, also, watch out for inflated prices for gringos (as forgieners are called here). You should also know that the RE market in Rio is not similar to Euro, areas become fashionable and unfashionable relatively quickly, and the middle class here is dinwdelling. It really depends what kind of investment do you want to make, is it a holiday flat/home, or are you looking to speculate on the market. If you are looking to buy a flat then Flamengo and Laranjeras are neighbourhoods (prcies a bit lower than Copacabana, but not for long!) on the rebound (they used to be the upper middle class until the 1960s and now seeing growth). Copacabana/Leme is stable but dont expect high captial gains (prices 40,000$ for a good one bed flat to 100,000$ for a good 3 bed flat), Ipanema/Leblon/Lagoa are still good investments (around 100,000$ for a good one bed flat) but some parts of them are reaching, in my view cieling level. Urca is a very good but relatively expensive bet (150,000$+ for a one bed flat), its a beautiful (but quiet) neighbourhood that is becoming more and more the preferable address for urban high-income class. Further afield there is a upper class neighbourhood of Sao Conrado (around the same price as Urca), and the aspiring lower middle-class to upper middle class neighbourhood of Barra de Tijuca (a good investment, but I wouldnt like to live there). I would not personally invest in the Zona Norte part of Rio (anything north of Centro).

Outside Rio the Costa Verde is the best investment option for a house on the beach. Still undervalued is Itacoruca, and the more expensive areas around Angra, and further south all the way to Paraty (prices are rocketing there!!). Feel free to contact me for more information.

Kind regards

Dan

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Re: Re: buyiing property in or near Rio de Janeiro
Posted: Tue October 26, 2004 06:07 PM UTC
DStanley,
I agree with Rayneworleans that the ocean in Marica is very rough. I have a friend that bougth a house in Itaipuacu and is having problems now with roads, etc,
Dan sounds very knowledgeable and the advices are good.
I'm brazilian but live in Florida for 13 yrs and own a property acrros the bay from Rio, Niteroi that is doing very good. My husband and I were there in september and looking for some more property but we were looking in the Regiao dos Lagos( Lakes Region) and were very pleased.

Be careful with the people that like to explore the gringos .

Tourguidebrazil and TVsampaio, when are you going to stop to advertising insted of answeing questions?

Tvsampaio, you said that you are not going to put any prices on VT and you are just trying to sell a apto.

Pleeeeease.
Maria

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Re: buyiing property in or near Rio de Janeiro
Posted: Tue October 26, 2004 08:06 PM UTC
Hello,

I lived in rio on and off for 7 years, I highly recommend
Laranjeras as a property investment. You will be in the center of it all. You can purchase a nice apartment be close to the metro and bus lines and let's not forget the beaches as well. Houses are not common in the city of rio it is mostly apartment purchasing.

I also had a beach house in Saquarema, it's a growing beach community and very lovely. Right next door to Saquarema is Itauna-surfing community.

Good luck to you.

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