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    • hiking in Torres del Paine and luggage

      by Peppas Online Now Jul 12, 2015 at 11:15 AM

      Hello, I was wondering what you would recommend in terms of luggage at Torres del Paine. I planned a trip from Central Chile to the South and I am using a rental car most of the time, which also makes it easy to store my stuff. At Torres del Paine I wanted to do the 3-4 day hiking circuit. Is there a way to store my duffel bag since I won't have my rental car there (and then just take a small backpack with me)? Or would I need to carry all my belonging while doing this?
      Thank you!


      2 Answers Jul 12, 2015 at 8:28 PM
    • What must-see hiking is well marked and good for a self-guided trip

      by leslienolimits Online Now Apr 12, 2015 at 5:14 PM

      We are visiting Torres Del Paine in late December 2015 - we are a family of three all nature lovers, hikers and campers.
      My husband cannot carry a backpack right now, so we are basing ourselves from Las Torres Hotel and want to hike and see the most beautiful spots in the area.

      I think we need a car since we are not buying all-inclusive, and we need some local input about how far hiking trails are and how well marked they are. We can do some excursions with the hotel, but we don't want to be on the schedule and pay all the extra. We have travelled to many and stayed in many US National parks - this is our first trip to Patagonia.

      We'd love feedback from anyone who has travelled this way. Ideally we would do the W circuit, but we want to sleep inside on a bed this trip because we are travelling to far to get there (we live in USA - CAlifornia).

      THanks for any ideas about what we should see and what is easy to see on your own vs what might be worth doing with a guide. Also reality check on car for getting around and gas situation.

      THank you!

      6 Answers Apr 13, 2015 at 4:51 PM
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      Full day tour to Torres del Paine from El Calfate

      by WorldDreamers4 Online Now Feb 25, 2015 at 1:48 PM

      Im looking for just a day Tour from El Calfate, Argentina to Torres del Paine, Chile on either April 5th or 6th. I only have 2 and half days here because one of the days Im doing an Ice trek on the glaciers on either the first or second day depending on whats available for Torres del Paine. The next day we are heading north to El Chalten to go camping and hiking for 3 days. This is why I'm looking for just a day trip on these days. Any recommendations on certain tours or where I can find these day trips available? Should I book them now or wait until I get to my hotel?




      3 Answers Feb 26, 2015 at 4:34 AM
    • How to get to Torres del Paine from Santiago by plane

      by stephenao Online Now Feb 4, 2015 at 9:03 PM

      I will be flying from SCL to Torres del Paine on Feb 17. What is the closer airport in Torres i del Paine
      Any budget hotel can recommend
      Any local tour for 2-3 days to the National Park
      How is the weather in Feb, i.e. whats temperature

      6 Answers Feb 7, 2015 at 4:20 PM
    • looking for Transport on 31.12.2014 from Puerto Natales to Hotel Grey?

      by PeterSwiss Online Now Dec 17, 2014 at 9:12 AM

      looking for Transport on 31.12.2014 from Puerto Natales to Hotel Grey, 03.01.2015 from Laguna Amaraga or Hotel Grey to Puerto Natales?

      feel free to contact me:

      Kind regards

      1 Answer Dec 17, 2014 at 10:38 AM
    • Meeting up with people in the park

      by TheresaB9 Online Now Dec 7, 2014 at 6:12 AM

      My friends are starting in at the Paine Grande entrance and I would like to meet them halfway through the hike to just to the torres del paine. is this possible? can i meet them at the amargo bus stop? suggestions for where to meet??
      thank you so so much!!

      10 Answers Dec 8, 2014 at 4:07 AM
    • Suggestions for 3 days and 2 nights in TdP?

      by SannaM Online Now Nov 11, 2014 at 11:51 AM


      Me an my friend will be travelling to Torres del Paine in December, and will be staying 2 nights + 3 days in the park.

      This is our first time in TdP, and we find it a bit tricky to come up with a suitable route for such a short time. We both like hiking, but are not super sporty. And we prefer to stay in the refugios, and not to camp.

      We'd be really grateful if somebody could suggest a suitable itinerary for such a short stay!

      Sanna & Hanna

      2 Answers Nov 12, 2014 at 2:49 AM
    • Las Torres Sendero del Ascencio - Towers of Paine

      by Lankfo Online Now Oct 21, 2014 at 11:17 AM

      Hi Everyone,
      I will be staying at Hotel Las Torres Patagonia, mid November, and would like to take the day tour called "Las Torres Sendero del Ascencio". It is the hike to the base of the Towers. I am a little worried about the difficulty of the hike. Does anyone have any experience with this hike and how hard would you rate it?
      Thank you.

      6 Answers Oct 28, 2014 at 10:17 AM
    • All Inclusive... or not?

      by nayha2000 Online Now Oct 20, 2014 at 3:40 PM

      Hi! We're planning a trip to Torrel Del Paine at the end of November. Below is the availability I've found at places we'd like to stay.

      - Explora Patagonia (Nov 23-27, which aren't our original dates but we can make it work. $4,560 per person)
      - Patagonia Camp (Nov 26-30 and have option of all inclusive or not. Not is $850 per person, with all inclusive is $2,040 per person)
      -Tierra Patagonia (Nov 26-30, $3000 per person)

      All inclusive is clearly a much more expensive option... do you think all inclusive is worth it? (I'm not sure we'll want to do activities non-stop and also I'm vegetarian- so not sure I'll be taking advantage so much of the food).

      Seems like the only option that isn't all inclusive is Patagonia Camp.

      Can you please let me know your thoughts on these options and if there are others I should look into? We're looking for something relatively luxurious as it's an anniversary trip, so no hostels etc.


      5 Answers Oct 21, 2014 at 10:32 AM
    • Planning the trip.

      by ritochka01 Online Now Oct 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM

      I need help in planning our trip to Torres del Paine in March, 3 for 2 days. We will have a rental car and will be staying at Hotel Rio Serrano. We are all close to 55-60 years old, not very adventurous. Any advice will be appreciated, thank you!

      3 Answers Oct 9, 2014 at 8:12 AM
    • Camping in September

      by yannick.etoundi Online Now Aug 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM

      After reading many posts, it seems that the campsites in the park only open mid-september... Does anyone know where to camp if all sites are closed, can we just camp there even if it is closed??

      1 Answer Aug 15, 2014 at 4:27 PM
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      Bus from Punta Arenas to Puerto Natales and back

      by adamfiz85 Online Now Aug 13, 2014 at 6:33 AM


      My wife and I are traveling to Patagonia in Dec & Jan. We have pretty much everything booked except bus tickets from Punta Arenas to Puerto Natales (round trip).

      What is the best way to purchase these bus tickets?

      I tried to purchase in advance, and got in contact with a company called "Austral Glacier". They claim to organize everything for you, without any fees (hotels, bus tickets, etc). They want me to wire cash into their bank account, and naturally that is a red flag for me. I've never had to do this before.

      I guess my question is, is it necessary to book these bus tickets in advance? I arrive in Punta Arenas at 7pm the night before I need to take a bus to Puerto Natales...I assume I can just purchase a ticket on the spot no problem?



      4 Answers Dec 20, 2014 at 6:54 AM
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      Food at Refugios - what to expect?

      by adamfiz85 Online Now Jun 20, 2014 at 10:23 AM

      Another rookie question (sorry!)

      My wife and I (mainly my wife, I'll eat anything) were wondering what kind of food we should expect at the refugios in TDP? Read mixed reviews, some people say it's junk food (somebody ordered chips and guacamole, and got doritos as "chips"), others say its like cafeteria food, etc.

      In other words...what is your typical breakfast, lunch, and dinner meal package?

      Can you purchase produce (apples, bananas, etc) at the shops, or do they offer them at all?

      We just want to make sure it's at least somewhat substantial and semi-healthy to fuel the long hikes.

      Thanks much!


      1 Answer Jun 20, 2014 at 3:03 PM
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      Hiking from Los Cuernos to Paine Grande (via Valle Frances) in 1 day?

      by adamfiz85 Online Now Jun 19, 2014 at 7:59 AM

      Is it possible (in only one day) to hike starting at Los Cuernos, then past Campamento Italiano, all the way to Campamento Britanico (i.e. the valle frances trail), and then all the way to Refugio Paine Grande to sleep?

      My wife and I are trying to do the W trail, and stay at Refugios every night for the food and shelter. I've read that most people spend the night at Campamento Italiano. Problem is, I was not planning on bringing a tent, stove, etc. It is always an option, but I was hoping to cut down on the weight of my bag.

      Any advice would be very much appreciated!




      4 Answers Jun 19, 2014 at 1:42 PM
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      Refugios for the W circuit - booking?

      by adamfiz85 Online Now Jun 18, 2014 at 12:58 PM

      What is the best way to book the refugios along the W circuit? For example I wanted to stay at Las Torres, Los Cuernos, Paine Grande, and Refugio Grey. I see there are two agencies (Fantastico and Vertice).

      How many months in advance should I book? I am beginning my trip on January 1, 2015.

      Any help or recommendations is appreciated!



      4 Answers Jun 18, 2014 at 7:26 PM
    • Solo "W" in late June?

      by raphpransky Online Now Jun 16, 2014 at 10:18 PM


      I was hoping to hike the W at some point over the next few weeks and as of now don't have anyone to hike it with. Do you think I'll be okay hiking/camping alone? I have the appropriate clothing and will rent sleeping bag/tent in Puerto Natales.

      On a similar note, it sounds like car/bus transfer from Puerto Natales to Torres del Paine is difficult to find at this time of year. Are you familiar with what my options might be? Would it be possible to hire a taxi rather than rent a car?

      Thank you so much for any help/suggestions. As of now I think I may go down to Puerto Natales (fly Santiago -> Punta Arenas) and try to figure out more there. Perhaps I may also find someone else to trek with.


      3 Answers Jun 18, 2014 at 1:45 PM
    • Trekking the W route in late April

      by VickyM14 Online Now Apr 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM

      I am a solo traveller looking to trek the W route from 24-28th April and wanted to ask if it is best to book refugios in advance? Many of them seem to have finished for the season (or floes on the 30April) and it's hard to see what I will need to book. Do you think it is possible to book everything in Puerto Natales? Or is it better to book some in advance and risk only a few? I am happy to camp if that is the only option but would prefer a basic bed if possible.

      Also this is at the beginning of a three moth trip and I will have a very large travel ruck sack. Is there somewhere where you can store bags before entering the park?

      Help and tips much appreciated especially from anyone who has done this trip solo.
      Thanks! Vicky

      2 Answers Apr 3, 2014 at 10:13 AM
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      by Zbig58 Online Now Mar 20, 2014 at 9:06 AM

      We are going to spend 3-4 Easter days in TDP (18 - 20/21 April). Is it possible to see best places (glacier, Torres etc. ) without long hiking (driving a car), in such short time. We would like to stay in the Puerto Natales, rent a car and jump to the Park every day. Does it make sense?

      3 Answers Mar 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM
    • Glacier Grey Ice Hike - timing?

      by MlleElizabeth Online Now Feb 7, 2014 at 12:02 PM


      I am planning on doing the ice hike on Glacier Grey at the beginning of April. I will be staying at Mountain Lodge Grey the night before and will leave for the hike from there. I am wondering what the typical timing of the hike is? I hope to do the hike and then trek down to Paine Grande to spend the night there. Is it possible to do the ice hike and then trek down to Paine Grande all in one day?

      The next day I will take the boat across lake Pehoe to Pudeto and then a bus to exit the park.

      Thank you!

      1 Answer Feb 8, 2014 at 5:12 AM
    • How to get from Refugio Grey to Punta Arenas?

      by MlleElizabeth Online Now Feb 3, 2014 at 11:24 AM


      I am going to be in Torres Del Paine at the very beginning of April. How do I get from Refugio Grey to Punta Arenas using busses and how long should it take? Would I have to take a Ferry down Lago Grey first? I have an entire day to get there, my flight out of Arenas is at 1:50PM the next day.

      Thank you!

      1 Answer Feb 3, 2014 at 3:14 PM
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      From Refugio Chileno to Lodge Paine Grand

      by storyin Online Now Jan 17, 2014 at 11:47 PM

      I am very happy I can visit Torres del Paine again!

      Now I have a question:

      I need to go to "Lodge Paine Grand" from "Refugio Chileno" in one day,
      and I do not want to get there by hiking, it is a too long way for me.
      Any other option?
      Is that possible to get there by bus and boat?

      Thanks so much in advance~~~

      1 Answer Jan 18, 2014 at 3:57 AM
    • Laptops while hiking the ¨W¨ and O trails

      by ejoyce222 Online Now Dec 23, 2013 at 4:46 AM


      A friend of mine is moving to Patagonia for a few months but is hiking in Torres right when she gets there...She is wondering if there is a place at the start of the W and O hikes where you can keep laptops or other valuables while hiking. Any lockers or places like that at the start of the hike? Or is it common for backbackers to just take everything with them on their backs? Thanks!

      2 Answers Dec 23, 2013 at 5:35 AM
    • Towers hike...and more sights throughout park without a car

      by ejoyce222 Online Now Dec 21, 2013 at 5:14 PM

      My aunt and I are spending a day in Torres del Paine in January. I plan to do the day hike to the towers for 7-8 hours but what would be something she could do while i'm hiking. We won't have a car so are there ways for her to get around the park to see the other lakes and viewpoints that don't require a lot of hiking? For example, are there collectivos or taxis in the park or small shuttles that take you from one point to the next??

      3 Answers Dec 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM
    • Refugio Grey to Puerto Natales in one day?

      by nadigri Online Now Oct 15, 2013 at 7:30 AM

      Hey, I have 9 days for Santiago- TDP national park- Santiago as my flight is going back on the 9th day. Therefore I need to be in Puerto Natales in the evening of my 8th day (2nd of december). I am planning to start in TDP and then to do half of the circuit (Serron, Perros etc). on my 8th day I would like to go from Grey to Paine Grande in the morning, taking the boat at 12:30 and the bus to puerto Natales in the evening. Is that possible? I read that trekking from Grey to Paine Grande takes four hours. So if I would start early in the morning at around 7 I could be at Paine Grande in time to get the boat. Is that true?

    • Transportation around Torres del Paine when NOT on a tour

      by ME1109 Online Now Sep 24, 2013 at 11:41 AM

      Does anyone have experience traveling from El Calafate to TDP when you are not with a tour group? We thought about renting a car but the fees and bother of it seem too extensive...not to mention leaving it at $130 a day in a parking lot. We are doing the W but are not sure where the buses drop off and then we would need one to take us back to El Calafate at the end of the W. We plan to give ourselves 4 days to do the W and skip Glacier Grey at the end of it if we run out of time. Is the only way out the catamaran? or does a bus pick up from Lodge Grande. We were also hoping to do some kayaking for a few hours at the end of the W (which end?) but I cannot figure out from the websites, which end of the W these companies are located on. Does anyone have information on hopping on buses around TDP, where they run from, and how consistently they run?

      What are thoughts on spending some time doing a kayaking trip in TDP after the W versus heading up to El Chalten and doing more hiking, biking, and horseback riding? We like all these things equally and have to fly out of El Calafate so the trek up to El Chalten would not be too far out of the way.

      Thanks! I feel lost in the Patagonia wilderness already!

      1 Answer Sep 24, 2013 at 12:05 PM
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      What kind of tent to use in TDP & Fitz Roy November ?

      by jeffarenas Online Now Sep 16, 2013 at 3:11 AM

      i'm ruling it down to these three because they seem appropriate but are also very cheap.. i leave in a month and need to get one asap but am unsure which is the better tent for the conditions i'll be in.

      three days in Monte Fitz Region and then 10 days doing the Full circuit Torres. i'll be lugging around movie film equipment whcih is bulky + my pack hence the two person tent.

      1) Darche Hornet 2 person tent…1571

      2) Darche Cumulus 2 person ten…508015...

      Black wolf Cocoon tent.


      any feedback would incredibly helpful!

      4 Answers Sep 16, 2013 at 6:55 AM
    • Getting from Refugio Grey to Punta Arenas in 1 day?

      by BosselMief Online Now Aug 19, 2013 at 2:28 PM


      I`m leaving with my wife for TDP mid October this year and to make the most of our trip we would like to add in a day of ice hiking after completing the W-circuit from Chileno to Grey. It would imply though that we need to be able to get from Refugio Grey to Punta Arenas in one full day as our plane leaves the next morning at 06h40.

      Anyone knows if that is possible at all? Assuming website info is accurate (Pacheco) there are buses leaving for Punta Arenas from Puerto Natales until 19h30 in the evening but I`m not sure we can get there in time.

      Thanks a lot!

      1 Answer Aug 19, 2013 at 6:42 PM
    • Torres del Paine from P. Natales vs. Calafate?

      by jrobb21 Online Now Jun 1, 2013 at 8:54 PM

      Hello folks,

      My girlfriend and I are planning a ~2.5 week trip to Southern Patagonia in late December-early January and wanted to get some feedback and also see if we could get some questions answered. We are both very fit hikers and plan to split nights camping and then in two refugios or just simply camp. Proposed itinerary below.

      Dec 26 - Fly to Santiago (vs. Buenos Aires)
      Dec 27 - Fly to Punta Arenas (vs. Calafate) - take late afternoon bus to Puerto Natales (vs. spending night in Calafate)
      Dec. 28 - Take bus to Torres del Paine (???private tour bus directly from Calafate)
      Dec. 29-31 hike the W
      Jan 1 - Take bus back to P. Natales (vs. ???getting back on a private tour bus to Calafate)
      Jan 2 - Take bus from P. Natales to Calafate, then take late afternoon bus to El Chalten
      Jan 3-4 (maybe 5) - Hike around the El Chalten/Fitz Roy area
      Jan 5 - Bus BACK to Calafate for a flight to Bariloche
      Jan 6-9 - Relax around Bariloche area
      Jan 10 - Fly Bariloche to B.A. and then back to Boston

      Major questions:
      (1) Does anybody have first- or secondhand experience with these private tour operators that take DAYtrips from Calafate to Torres del Paine?
      -It is my understanding that they are expensive tours, but if we are able to by round trip flights to Buenos Aires than it might be significantly cheaper than going one-way the entire time (Boston - Santiago - P. Arenas - Bariloche - Buenos Aires) and thus offset that cost

      (2) Is this trip doable as I have described above?
      -We appreciate how hectic the initial part of the trip is - lots of bus travel - but I am having a hard time reconciling going to Torres and then NOT going to El Chalten while we are down there...We thought jam-packing them in in the beginning of the trip and then having a few days at the end to relax and eat chocolate in Bariloche would be a reasonable way to shape the trip. The specific questions surround whether we would be able to:
      -Take a bus from P. Natales to Calafate and then get to El Chalten that same day
      -Take a bus from El Chalten to Calafate and catch a flight to Bariloche that same day

      Again, the above describes two possible itineraries: one is the traditional way of getting to Torres and then wrapping around to Argentina; the other is whether we can directly get to Torres from Calafate.

      Any help would be greatly appreciated as always. Thanks.

      2 Answers Nov 29, 2013 at 3:54 AM
    • Camping in April

      by moktarm Online Now Mar 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM

      We're 2 experienced trekkers planning to do the O circuit in mid April, bringing all our own gear and camping as much as possible. Are the free campsites open for use year round (or until end of April at least)?

    • refugio reservations

      by jtakpark Online Now Feb 21, 2013 at 4:10 PM

      I'm planning to hike the W in Torre del Paine this September. However, reservations for the refugios are not possible through the 'Fantastico Sur' and 'Vertice' online sites. Are the refugios already booked up? Are there any other way to find vacancy? Thank you.

      3 Answers Feb 22, 2013 at 12:55 AM