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by kemisteryoso Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 1:31 AM

Hello fellow Vters!


Im planning to visit Toronto on March to get a US visa and I'm thinking of staying in Best Western Plus Travel Hotel located at 5503 Eglinton Ave W. Do you think it's hard for me to go to the US embassy from this hotel.
Or it's better to stay in Downtown Toronto?


I will be arriving on March 10 evening from Winnipeg.

March 11 - CN tower, old and new cityhall, flatiron building then before dusk heading to Niagara falls. (Is there any bus going to Niagara falls at this time and how about the return to Toronto?)

March 12 - interview at 10 am in US embassy at Simcoe st then after that I will be heading(via bus) to Ottawa and spend the night there.
( is there any bus company that you could recommend bound to Ottawa)

March 13- In the morning , visit parliament building or any place. Then past 12 nn I will be heading (Via bus) to Montreal and will spend the night there.

(Is there any bus going to Montreal from Ottawa?)

March 14 - i will be exploring Montreal ( i haven't researched the must see places there yet)

march 15 - still in Montreal maybe wandering in the morning coz in the afternoon going back to Winnipeg.

Do you think it's possible. This is just a plan and I need feedback about it. I don't mind about the tight Itinerary. I am used to it.

Thank you very much.

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  • vtveen's Profile Photo

    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by vtveen Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 2:33 AM

    Just about the Ottawa leg of your stay:
    "March 13- In the morning , visit parliament building or any place. Then past 12 nn I will be heading (Via bus) to Montreal and will spend the night there."

    I really would recommend a visit to the Canadian Museum of Civilization; for me one of the most interesting museums I ever visited.

    happy travels
    Jaap

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by pieter_jan_v Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 5:12 AM

    Check http://www.greyhound.ca/ for your bus connevtions.

    PJ

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by pieter_jan_v Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 5:12 AM

    Check http://www.greyhound.ca/ for your bus connevtions.

    PJ

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by RACCOON1 Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 6:15 AM

    Options for travel


    Option One
    Take a taxi back to the airport and the go downtown via
    the airport shuttle bus
    or TTC bus to Kipling station and the the subway to Union station

    Option Two
    Take a TTC Bus 112 to the Kipling Station ( 25 min.) and the Subway from there
    ( 25 to 30 minutes I think).

    From Union Station walk say 20 minutes to US Embassy

    Total time 60 to 80 minutes

    Option Three and Four
    Take taxi to Kipling station and then subway or take taxi direct to union station.

    Option Five
    Rent car for two days ( one day for Niagara and one day for into the city).
    Car rental means coming in during rush hour.
    You may not like that experience.

    For a 10:00 am interview start your trip early

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by GrumpyDiver Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 7:03 AM

    First of all your choice of hotel is okay to get to the airport, but is nowhere near the downtown. I'm guessing here (I know that part of Toronto fairly well), I suspect you are looking at one or two buses, just to get you to the subway to get downtown. It is not at all convenient for the places you are looking at going to. Plan on 60 minutes of travel time, minumum to get to the downtown area.

    There is no US Embassy in Toronto (embassies are in Ottawa); I think you mean the US Consulate (it's on University Ave between Dundas St and Queen St) and not far from old and new City Hall (Bay and Queen; perhaps a 10 minute walk). The two buildings are right beside each other.

    The CN Tower is in Front St, near Spadina and the Flatiron Building (Gooderham Building can also be reached from Front St, just east of Yonge St). A bit more of a walk; probably in the 20 - 30 minute range.

    Buses run to Niagara Falls all the time (the casino there draws a lot of bus travellers). The main bus terminal is at Dundas St and Bay St (10 minutes walk north up Bay St from City hall. Greyhound runs there for sure, and there could be others. Via Rail goes there too and you walk right by the train station when you go between the CN Tower and Gooderham Building. Bus is probably cheaper and more frequent, especially at night. It's about a 90 minute trip each way. I'm not quite sure why you want to do this at dusk; yes the Falls are illuminated, but I would want to get a daytime viewing too.

    Greyhound goes to Ottawa from the bus terminal; about 4-1/2 hours if you catch an express bus and takes you to the Catherine St bus terminal. Bus service is frequent (often hourly). You can walk to Parlimaent Hill from there (40 minutes I think) or head over to Bank St and take one of the northbound buses; Parliament Buildings are at Bank and Wellington St. I agree with Pieter-Jan; the Canadian Museum of Civilization does an excellent job dealing with the history of Canada and lies more or less across the Ottawa River from the Parliament Buildings; perhaps a 20 minute walk; but I suspect you will be a bit tight for time.

    To get to Montreal; it's back to the bus terminal and there are frequent buses to the Guy St terminal in Montreal. It's about 2 hours one way. Once you get to Montreal, you might want to head into the Old Montreal area; quite historic.

    Anyways, check out the Greyhound website for intercity bus fares and schedule. Local buses in Toronto are on the TTC website; Ottawa OC Transpo website and Montreal on the STM website. Just Google and you should have no trouble finding them. Montreal and Toronto both have good subway systems that connect to the bus system. Ottawa is buses only.

    I hope that this helps...

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by vtveen Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 11:33 AM

    "I agree with Pieter-Jan ..." ?????

    Jaap

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by GrumpyDiver Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 11:55 AM

    Sorry Jaap; "I agree with Jaap".

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by kemisteryoso Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 2:14 PM

    Thanks Guys for the idea. i will ask more soon.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by kemisteryoso Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 2:43 PM

    Im thinking of re scheduling the trip to May because I am considering the season. I can re schedule my appointment to the US embassy. It's better to travel this cities on May than in March? This will be my first solo travel in Canada.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by GrumpyDiver Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 2:47 PM

    May for sure. Much like Winnipeg, March can be unpredicable and cold in these cities. May can be gorgeous!

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by kemisteryoso Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 2:59 PM

    yeah,not much snow around here which they said very unusual. i cant tell the difference yet because this is my first full winter.
    Yeah I think May is safe and not that cold. I wont have any problem if I wander the cities by foot. And also, Canada Wonderland will open on May right? Hmm, do you know what is the exact date they will open?

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by kemisteryoso Online Now Dec 26, 2011 at 3:15 PM

    Since I am moving it to May, I am considering to include Quebec.

    The additional question is, what bus company that has daily trip to Quebec from Montreal. The travel time will take how many hours?

    I like to travel by road as much as possible because I wanna see the countryside.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by mim95 Online Now Dec 29, 2011 at 7:15 AM

    May is definitely a nicer time, the weather is warmer and the scenery is nicer. There is a tulip festival in Ottawa with a million of tulip in various parks.

    I would pick a downtown or midtown hotel. The hotel you asked is way out there in the middle of nowhere. That area is mostly commercial/industrial.

    It's fine only if you have a car. Otherwise, you'll be spending a lot of time on the bus and subway everyday. Rush hour traffic in Toronto is really bad and you do want to avoid traveling on the bus for too long if possible.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by GrumpyDiver Online Now Dec 29, 2011 at 7:52 AM

    Most things open for the Victoria Day weekend, so it would likely be mid-May before Wonderland is open. The Wonderland website is your best guide on when it opens.

    All large cities have "sketchy" area, but they tend to be away from places that travellers are likely going to be interested in. I've wandered through the downtown areas of Toronto, Montreal, Quebec City and Ottawa on foot many times. Really, it is the best way to see the cities, unless you want to visit something off the main core. Ottawa and Quebec City downtowns are a lot more compact than either Toronto or Montreal.

    Buses to Quebec City go hourly, and there is only one inter-city bus terminal in Montreal, on the corner of Maisonneauve and Berri (there is a Metro Station, Berri / UQAM (Univeristy of Quebec at Montreal) that services it. I believe both Greyhound and Orleans Express run the route. It takes around 3 hours.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by kemisteryoso Online Now Dec 29, 2011 at 7:48 PM

    Mid May. I think I will skip Canada Wonderland for now.
    I cant drive for now.
    I will stay in Toronto for only 3 days.

    Can u guys tell me where's the bus terminal bound to Toronto from Niagara?
    I am a total stranger to all these places and this will be my first travel outside Manitoba. I appreciate all your help and I wrote all your suggestions and tips already.

    I checked already the must see places in Toronto but I am thinking there might be some that are not mentioned there.

    CN tower
    old and new City hall
    the Flatiron building

    what else?

    I wanna take a photo of Toronto skyline where is the best location to do this?

    The Hotel I mentioned, I will no longer stay there. I checked the location in google map and it's far.

    I think it's hard for me to use the bus etc either but I will try.
    Do they have daily pass in Toronto?

    Thank you.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by GrumpyDiver Online Now Dec 29, 2011 at 8:40 PM

    The Niagara Falls bus (Greyhound) leaves from the bus terminal that I mentioned in a previous posting (Toronto Bus Terminal; 610 Bay St. at Dundas W).

    Best skyline shot would be from Toronto Island. You need to take the ferry which departs from Queens Quay and Bay Street.

    Photography - the OCAD building is downright different.

    "One weird looking building - OCAD Main Building" - Toronto Off The Beaten Path Tip by GrumpyDiver

    I understand that the Distillery District (east from the Flatiron Building) is very good, but haven't gotten there myself. The University of Toronto has some picturesque buildings, and I've always enjoyed wandering through Yorkville with a camera - "Toronto - Yorkville" - Toronto Travelogue by GrumpyDiver

    Old City Hall is hard to photograph, but lots of opportunities for the new city hall. The Henry Moore sculpture in front of the new city hall is frequently photographed, as is the one in front of the Art Gallery of Ontario (the OCAD building is just around the corner and it is not far from the Bus Terminal). I would walk as it takes you through Chinatown, which always presents interesting photo opportunities. Just wandering up Yonge St is a bit of fun to do with a camera. The Yonge Dundas Square is good for people shots, especially around lunchtime (there are some interesting characters hanging around),

    Check the TTC site for bus / subway / daypass info

    www3.ttc.ca/Fares_and_passes...

    Other places to visit; Royal Ontario Museum, Hockey Hall of Fame. A bit out of town has the Ontario Science Centre and

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by mim95 Online Now Dec 30, 2011 at 6:40 AM

    The bus terminal is in downtown Toronto, near Dundas subway station.

    As for places to see in Toronto, Casa Loma is a nice historical house that is castle-like (of course, can't compare to those in Europe). If you like history and art, ROM and AGO are worthwhile to visit.

    For skyline, the easiest way is to take the ferry to the islands.

    The Toronto Transit Commission (TTC) has daily pass. If you take it at least 4 times in a day, it is worthwhile to get the pass. Otherwise, buy tokens. The price will increase in 2012, however, so check their website for the latest info: ttc.ca Their website is very good, and tells you how to go from one place to another.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by kemisteryoso Online Now Jan 22, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    another question.

    I just want to ask if there's bike rental in Toronto islands? because if I will travel on foot it will take me 3 hours to visit all the attractions there. The distance between the first and last attraction is roughly 6 kms.

    Thank you very much to all your help. It made my planning easier.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by mim95 Online Now Jan 23, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    I think the bike rental on the island only operates during the summer, although I'm not 100% sure about this. But you can always rent a bike from any Bixi stands, which is a self-served bike rental service in downtown Toronto. Google for their website on the location and more details.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by kemisteryoso Online Now Jan 23, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    oh, that's great if there's a bike rental in Downtown Toronto. This will save me more time. On May, we have longer days right? so I can extend my tour in the evening.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by pieter_jan_v Online Now Jan 23, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    I suddenly realised I once wrote a tip on the Toronto coach terminal:

    "Toronto Coach Terminal TCT" - Toronto Transportation Tip by pieter_jan_v


    PJ

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by kemisteryoso Online Now Jan 24, 2012 at 8:25 PM

    i checked the website already.

    Im thinking to take the bus bound to Kipling Station then I will try the subway train. I think it's more fun :) But the thing is I can't find the Union station on the map.

    about the Bixi Bikes,250 deposit is placed on your credit card for 10 days, they will return this after? I will stay in Toronto for 4 days only and might use the bikes for 2 days maybe. It's only 5 bucks if you chose a 24 hour access.

    can u take the bike anywhere as long as you return it to any station or it has a designated route?

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by GrumpyDiver Online Now Jan 24, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    Toronto has two separate subway lines, one goes east/west and the other north/south. The Bloor - Danforth lines (Kipling Station is the most westerly station on this line.

    Take the line to one of the tranfer points (St. George or Yonge) and transfer to a southbound train. Union Station is the most southerly station on the North / South line.

    Sorry, I can't help you on the Bixi bikes.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by mim95 Online Now Jan 25, 2012 at 5:37 AM

    For Bixi bikes, you can go anywhere for as far as you like, and you can return the bike to any bike stations. I would suggest you to print out a map of the bike rental locations. The city has some suggested bike routes and bike paths: toronto.ca/cycling/map/index...

    Be careful with the traffic, as most roads don't have a bike lane.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by kemisteryoso Online Now Jan 25, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    I think I need to bring my own head gear then.

    Thank you so much.

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    Re: Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal

    by GrumpyDiver Online Now Jan 25, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Yes, one of the criticisms of Bixi is that there are no helments with the bikes.

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