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What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

by valtor Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 8:22 AM

We tried to go to Stourdzakapelle, but could not find it. Instead, we reached behind Trinkhalle, on Stourdzastrasse , a small mausoleum (?) or chappel (?), on the front of it is written something like "so wie wir furs vaterland geffallen...", you can see via a small window, inside a big cross and two tombs.

Can somebody please explain me what is this monument, whom are the tombs and also how we had to go from there to Stourdza chapel?

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  • Re: What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

    by valtor Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 10:08 AM

    I put here two images of this monument
    See please
    kodakgallery.com/gallery/cre...

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    Re: What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

    by ranger49 Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 10:18 AM

    Sorry but I cannot get your Link to open , From your description it sounds like some kind of memorial - possibly to those fallen in war.

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    Re: What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

    by ranger49 Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM

    Did it look like this? If so it was the funeral chapel of a noble family

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    by ranger49 Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 10:34 AM

    Oops -sorry - here is the Link -

    mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/...

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  • Re: What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

    by valtor Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 10:53 AM

    No, the image you show is Stourdza chapel, and this is what I wanted to visit but could not find.
    Thank you in any case. I'll try to find another way to upload the pictures of the monument which I don't know exactly what is, even I understood that it is for heroes fallen in a war.

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    Re: What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

    by ranger49 Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 11:00 AM

    Have a look at this Link-

    roughguides.com/travel/europ...

    It says the Chapel is behind Trinkhalle...

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    by Kathrin_E Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 11:04 AM

    You could upload a photo on your homepage here on VT, or create a Baden-Baden page.

    Let us know here when the photo is online, I'll have a look at it. At the moment I cannot think of such a monument in Baden-Baden but the inscription you quote indicates some kind of war memorial, either 1870/71, World War I or World War II.

    The Romanian chapel is at the top end of Stourdzastraße, and apart from one villa and the chapel there is not much else in that little street.

    I am curious now to see what you found. I know Baden-Baden quite well but there might be a surprise.

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  • Re: What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

    by valtor Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 11:21 AM

    Thanks Kathrin, I uploaded the photos in Picasa now
    picasaweb.google.com/lh/sred...

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    by valtor Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 11:27 AM

    Kathrin, I did know that I can upload pictures in VT. Thank you for this idea! I put the pictures there.

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  • Re: What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

    by valtor Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM

    No Ranger, this is again the image of Stourdza chapel, which I could not find it, but I would like to!
    Thank you anyway.

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  • Re: What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

    by valtor Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 11:44 AM

    I have the answer. Somebody in another forum told me that this is Kriegergedächtniskapelle is at Solmsstrasse. I did not walk enough to reach Stourdza, it seems that we walked only 1/3 of the distance!
    Any case, now I have to find more info about this chapel which I saw by mistake.

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    by Kathrin_E Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM

    Oops. Now this is interesting. I have never seen that building. It is a war memorial, probably not World War II but older. Do you have a more detailed photo of the inscriptions under the cross so they are readable?

    Funny enough, the city of Baden-Baden have this on their website: baden-baden.de/static/virtue...
    Unfortunately the page does not say where this panorama was taken. But I think I have located it on Google maps: on the slope behind/above Trinkhalle but below Solmsstraße. Stourdza chapel is located on the same hill but much higher up, I think you did not walk far enough.

    Does anyone know it?

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    by Kathrin_E Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 11:53 AM

    Kriegergedächtniskapelle translates to no more than "warrior memorial chapel" - but we still don't know who and which war.

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    Re: What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

    by abalada Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 7:06 PM

    The inscription over the entrance is a slightly modified version from a poem of Theodor Körner (1791-1813). Which was typically used from memorials dedicated to the Befreiungskriege (Wars of Liberation - part of the Napoleonic Wars).
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodo...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LCtzow...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...

    Don't think that the plates inside are tombs. Sadly not readable on your photo apart from a few single words. Seems just more words of remembrance.

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  • Re: What is this monument and how far is it from Stourdza chapel?

    by valtor Online Now Nov 12, 2011 at 9:41 PM

    Very interesting, Abalada.

    The tombs and the cross were in an interior, locked room; I took the picture through the fence and could not see what is written.

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